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By Derek Mathias - 11 Mar 2010

But that's just it...God DOES do evil, at least by the very standards we consider evil to be. I've been reading the Bible and I've discovered (re-discovered) some pretty alarming things. Like:

Numbers 31:17-18

Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

This isn't just God killing innocent animals, but ordering people to kill babies and women, and then keep virginal girls for, well, it doesn't take a genius to know what they were expected to do with the girls. Something is horribly, obscenely wrong here....

The Bible says God is all-powerful. That means he can do anything. No limits. It also says he is all-knowing (and even if he weren't, he could simply will himself to be omniscient, since he's omnipotent and can do that by definition). So he know every decision we will ever make before he even creates us. He knew Adam would fail, yet he put Adam in with the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, and he let the serpent into the Garden of Eden...even though he knew there was no chance Adam could choose otherwise (how could Adam choose otherwise...he wasn't aware of the difference between good and evil until AFTER he ate the fruit, so he couldn't have known it was wrong to disobey God nor that he shouldn't believe the serpent).

Why do you think Lucifer thought he could do all that God did? Lucifer KNEW he was not omnipotent--that's an easy test that anyone can do by simply trying to will anything into being--yet surely he knew God is omnipotent, right? Therefore he HAD to know God was infinitely more powerful than he was. I don't think there's any test easier to take!

I have to ask...why do you think God is everything he claims to be? If he's evil, he will claim to be good yet BEHAVE in an evil manner. If God is good, he shouldn't appear to behave in an evil manner at all, but if he does he should make it perfectly clear to everyone exactly why it is good. Right? That's what the ultimate good being would do, surely. So if we see God behaving in an evil manner in the Bible, and he does not go out of his way to explain how it's actually good...what are we to think? What makes you think God is good? I really want to understand this.


Derek Mathias

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