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Responses & Comments about "The Animal Rights Movement must tackle Global Warming" letter

Anthony Marr is right, my friends. Mass species extinction is a byproduct of global warming. We’ve got to pull together on this one, not only to save human life and livelihood, but to save untold numbers of animal lives as well.


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When you post a bulletin about animal cruelty, animal rescue or other animal rights issues, please follow it with a post about global warming. Spread the word. Action now will save billions upon billions of animals from suffering and death and allow an infinite number of animals to be born.

Posted by frankOdelic on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 9:09 PM

Kelli Curtis
I agree with you whole heartedly. :)
Posted by Kelli Curtis on Sunday, April 06, 2008 at 7:09 PM

one mother earth
Wow! I had never heard of the Alberta Tar Sands! What a f$%@$% atrocity! Man is the worst animal in existence. No lower species would destroy his own home. What is this fascination with money. It only has value if one has faith in it. Once we have nothing to gain by having money, what will the point on getting it be? We need green, low impact energy now! If anyone has not looked at the blue web site for the Alberta Tar sands on the previous page, please do. We will succeed in ruining this planet on our present course. Mankind does not use logic or common sense, he only satisfies his immediate desires with no thought of tomorrow. Green scraps of paper become more important than life itself. What a shame.
Posted by one mother earth on Sunday, April 06, 2008 at 7:30 PM

☮☮☮Sugar Gypsy ☮☮☮
Wow, this is serious, and everyone should be emailed a link to this blog!
Posted by ☮☮☮Sugar Gypsy ☮☮☮ on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 12:45 AM

Goddess Lozz
This is what I try and tell everyone!
Posted by Goddess Lozz on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 3:22 AM

The alberta tar sands have been producing for some time, and their main concerns are NOT GHG emissions, it is what could possibly happen to the water table as well as the push to drive down wages of the employees involved. The water table is a big issue that should not be taken lightly.

A factor that is given for the support of tar sand/oil production is that it would negate our dependence on middle-east oil, and help to end oil wars and east-west war escalation. While I understand the point of argument, I do not agree that this will work.

Algae-based-hydrogen technology may be the way to go, but this would take a huge push from our people and our government.
In any case you are right in saying that both causes must be merged, for the benefit of either cause.

Keep in mind, that ANY change for the better is a good thing, no matter what your reason, or cause is.

Rock on, Frank!
Posted by Qntkka on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 3:39 AM

Everyone has their special interest, such as animal rights activism, or stopping the war in Iraq, or Health care or the economy. And every one of us seems to think our own special interest is the most important one.

But climate change has the most potential of anything (except perhaps nuclear war) to cause the most human AND animal suffering. We need to set our priorities straight and focus on the things that have the most long-term and far-reaching effects on ALL aspects of life and society. The economy is NOT more important than climate change.

Unfortunately, the human brain has a lot of trouble forseeing the future accurately. Instead it fabricates a future based on the present, and the fabricated future tends to look a lot like the present in slightly different clothes. So that's no help when trying to imagine a future five or ten degrees warmer. Maybe knowing this about ourselves will help us overcome it?? I hope so.
Posted by Danica on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 7:33 AM

Majestic XII
thanks Frank i will repost!
Posted by Majestic XII on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 10:59 AM

Green Linh
oh Frank! Keep it up! Just because we don't comment, doesn't mean we are not reading. I read this twice last night and showed it to my boyfriend. I have been a vegetarian since I was 7 = 18 year nows and he has been for 2 years! We are trying our best. As I recall, you are cutting meat 5 out of 7 days now?! Are you still eating meat? If so, I would think about cutting meat all the way! You have to walk the walk before people will follow.

This post is powerful though. It really made us think "What can we do and how much more?!"
Thank you.
Posted by Green Linh on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 11:42 AM

Thanks Linh... I need to hear that now and again. Sometimes I wonder if I'm getting through. If the effort is paying off :)
Posted by frankOdelic on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 8:39 PM

Louie! Louie!
mmm chicken breast. i work out so i need my protein!. =
Posted by Louie! Louie! on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 11:45 AM

Kindness of Strangers~Live Green saves Wildlife
My husband is 63 years old and rides his bike to work and back 22 miles a day, he rode it 3600 miles when he was 50 to help animals, and he is vegetarian, www.ArtieBock.com and have you seen Robert Cheeke the vegan body builder, he is in my top friends and i have video of many more, i have been eating as a vegetarian since 1972 and used to ride my bike 123 miles a week, so working out, i do not think you are getting the right info, i have a lot of nutritional information i will be happy to share with you. See my blogs especially Care about your health watch these videos

Vegan Diet Beats Cancer, links, info, video, but…

Namasté, nan
Posted by Kindness of Strangers~Live Green saves Wildlife on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 12:18 PM

♥Linda♥ Did you food have a face? or family? GoVeg
I went veg 5 months ago and have never felt better. Its not as hard as you think. There are many meat alternatives at most grocery stores. You dont have to eat carrot sticks. Its real food and its tasty. This helps the planet without even thinking about it. Plus by going veg you save about a hundred animals a year from brutal deaths. Eating animal flesh is unhealthy for humans and the planet. Please consider a more compassionate lifestyle.
Posted by ♥Linda♥ Did you food have a face? or family? GoVeg on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 11:46 AM

Protect Animals
You're absolutely right about the meat alternatives, very tasty.
Posted by Protect Animals on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 4:28 PM

if even my own husband doesn't believe in Global Warming, (he is a conservative republican) who believes that it is natural (global warming) and not man made, and has found some scientists who agree with him and George W. Bush. If even my own husband, and he won't listen, than how can we get other conservative Christian republicans to listen, and then act?!
My husband isn't vegan and doesn't think my "New Age" approach to spirituality isn't worth anything but leads people astray....I am so fed up with close minded people who won't even turn their ears to hear....so what do we do? How an we stop this?!
Posted by Sara on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 11:49 AM

You really should sit yourself and your husband down at a computer and flesh the global warming thing out together.

Meaning, you should sit there and research global warming in the presence of each other until a consensus is reached on Yea or Nay.

I have no doubt that this will work if you both keep disciplined. If you don't, then obviously one of you is not interested in seeking truth.

Posted by Peter on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 12:26 PM

There are so few people who actually write to their legislators that every person who does has a much stronger influence. I'm a member of the Union of Concerned Scientists, and they make it really easy to write in to the right person whenever cliimate change legislation is about to happen.
Posted by Danica on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 12:17 PM

One way or another, our very BEST course of action to stave off the 6th great extinction is a massive culture revolution.

What's causing our environmental destruction isn't simply a matter of shutting down the factories or riding a bike to work. The root cause of why humans are so destructive is culturally systemic.

It is written in our very civilization to spread out, conquer, and consume at an exponential rate. For the very large majority of our history as a species, we did not behave like this. Ever since the agricultural revolution, things have changed, exploded even. We are seeing old ills amplified, new ills created, and every ill spread evenly across the planet. I hate to say it, but when you take a few steps back and really look at our civilization, it is completely SICK and INSANE. Not only to the environment (which we have no right to rape and destroy) but to human beings.

We MUST target the fundamental memes of our culture, the toxic memes which allow us to torture, kill, and enslave humans and ecosystems. We MUST find fundamentally new ways of making a living. We MUST walk away from our pyramids, our civilization, into something new and better, more sustainable, and more free.

If you are an environmentalist, then I HIGHLY suggest you read the book "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn. This is a life changing book that very succinctly explains what's actually wrong with our society. It gives us a yet unseen glimpse of the bars on our cage.

Posted by Peter on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 12:35 PM

David, AHHhhhhh, yes... the force is strong in this one.
Posted by frankOdelic on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 8:44 PM

Daniel Trujillo
first off. dont become a vegan... just eat republicans/christian right/GOP. second who's this god character that everyone keeps alluding to?
Posted by Daniel Trujillo on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 12:40 PM

Kindness of Strangers~Live Green saves Wildlife
Very funny Daniel and i just finished my blog on killing the whole Republican party, would love some feedback on it, those who know me well would be surprised i would ever think anything like this Killing THEM with Kindness, does that mean murder?
Posted by Kindness of Strangers~Live Green saves Wildlife on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 1:29 PM

Plastique Doll
lol @ Daniel. I agree Frank! I will pass this around in my email. This is a great blog. Thanks for the words of wisdom, as always! ;)
Posted by Plastique Doll on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Thanks again for your great blogs/bulletins etc
This is a very important one, as are all of Kindness's as well, I do pass it along via email too.

We are seing alot first hand here in oz, in particular disapearance of many frog species, bleaching and dying of coral, many more species being added to the endangered list ( both animal and plant), desertification of wetlands and decreasing numbers in fish populations which is all having rippling effects through the animal food chains as well like, i.e increased occurances of hungry sharks coming into inland estuaries and areas they are not normally seen looking for food, crocodiles coming further south etc

There are so many great organistations and individuals like yourself that are spreading the word and caring about it!, this is what is so important.

Thanks again,
Posted by THE PRAM DIET on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 6:44 PM

Posted by CromCakes on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 1:08 PM

She Dun, Queen of the Broken Asses!
I'm up to my eyeballs in information right now! Who says you have to go to school for an education?! It's all right here on myspace!
Posted by She Dun, Queen of the Broken Asses! on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Kindness of Strangers~Live Green saves Wildlife
i went to college for 12 years and taught junior college for two, my best instructor said those very words, you do not need college for an education, but it did help me learn how to discern what to listen to and the source of info, one of the first things i learned was not to believe anything just because it was in print, this was way before the web, today i posted a correction for one of my own old blogs about what to do if you have a heart attack and are alone, because it just did not sound believable, checked with www.snopes.com and it was an urban legend.

My dear friend Frank is a great source of info and he won't give you too much info as i am too often guilty of doing. However he won't tell you this either, in fact this Another clean and green fuel?

was in the original bulletin and he edited it out, which i gave him permission to do as i do pack too often a lot of info into my 6 bulletins a day. Namasté, nan
Posted by Kindness of Strangers~Live Green saves Wildlife on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 3:14 PM

We will forever find good reasons for taking a decision and most governments are prompt at this exercise when the basis of their over ruling any humanistic or global warming issue is economics.

They never look ahead but are always dealing with daily necessities and patching a whole here and there. As for being less dependant on far east oil and others, this would be laughable if the problem wasn't so dramatic.

Yes of course this huge open mine in Alberta that has suddenly become interesting due to the price of the barrel of oil is a huge threat. And every movement and association should join forces, as I have already said before "we shall never be too many to fight", whatever yr cause, be it recognition of the Tibet or saving condemned animals or food for the underfed. We should unite to strengthen our fight to save our world up and against anything that should threaten it.

You know Frank that I'm open to suggestions and that it's more than time that we should do more than what we've been doing up till now!!!!!


P.S. Hope that you guys do as well or better than we did today with the Olympic flame in Paris, I heard that some were already climbing the Golden Gate Bridge?
Posted by marc on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 1:54 PM

I second that emotion.
Posted by Curewitz on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 6:03 PM

The animal rights movement that I have been part has always tackled issues of re-forestation, destruction of rainforest and hence species that live in it. Simply put if a vegan diet can be produced on for the sake of arguement a quarter of the land needed for an animal based diet then we whave left over land for wilderness, forest products, hemp growing and now in vogue, bio fuel crops. A little old lady when i met her Kathleen Jannaway a former president of the vegan society in England started the movement for compassionate living to emphasis these points, look on wikepedia or
Look at archived pamphlets linking co3, and the 2 population explosions, humans and animals.

In the wake of inconveniant truth last years meatout events orginised by the Farm Animal Reform Movement focussed on 'Bite Global Warming'.
The connections have been made and rise with the tide every now and again.
People come to a vegetarian vegan perspective from lots of different angles but whichever way you come in you will certainly start connecting the dots.
Stirve 2 survive casusing the least possible suffering and footprint on this planet.
Posted by UUC on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 6:46 PM

Hey Frankodelic,
I get a ton of bulletins and cannot possibly read them all. And some of them I'm afraid to read because the horribly abused animal pictures are too graphic for me :-(

Thanks for bringing this bulletin to my attention. Had not even heard of this tar-tar place before now. I always appreciate learning something new. I agree with She Dun & Linh... just because we don't respond doesn't mean we're not reading you Frank and spreading the knowledge.
Posted by Cherree on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 7:35 PM

Bible Belt Atheist
In addition to all the other things, we need a DNA bank for these animals; with enough samples of DNA from individual members, that we will have genetic viability; once we decide to clone them, and bring the species back from extinction. And make no mistake about it. Despite anyone's best efforts, a lot of these animals ARE going to become extinct. It is simply impossible to save all of them. A genetic DNA bank, is the only chance that many of them have got.
Posted by Bible Belt Atheist on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 7:42 PM

Raine: Dance With Me CD Available Now!
The solution is simple and I mentioned it before in reply to your blogs....people need to stop having lots of children....I can understand why people want children....but do people need to have more than 2 children per family (one to replace each parent?). If you want to cut down on global warming then cut down on reproducing children. We are over-populated and there are alot of children in orphanages and foster homes worldwide that would love to be part of a loving family.....yet people are spending thousands of dollars for IVF and other techonologies to have twins, triplets etc when they can't reproduce naturally.....I assume that the desire to pass on their DNA is stronger than the desire to be a 'parent'. Personally I don't have children, am not planning on having any, and wouldn't have a sleepless night if it turns out I never have children...but if I wanted one and couldn't have one naturally then I'd adopt one instead of spending thousands of dollars on IVF or surrogacy....thereby creating another human being in an already over-populated planet.

I find it incredulous when I see people supporting the 'save the earth' agenda and 'do what you can to reduce your carbon footprint'...then upon further research find out they have 5 kids....actions speak louder than words.
Posted by Raine: Dance With Me CD Available Now! on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 8:39 PM

Hi, I happen to have 6 children, I had 1 child as a single mother at age 18, then when I got together with my husband he wanted 2 of his own, I had another boy, then couldnt have anymore after a later miscarriage, we adopted 3 children from Russian orphanages, they were all over the age of 6, the oldest 2 had suffered terrible trauma in their lives and could no longer live with us, they were with us for 3 years though, (we still have the youngest we adopted)
the older 2 live in a wonderful american group home setting and are still in regular contact with us.

as soon as we got back from Russia I found out I was pregnant, then again right after and again, each surprises.I am a vegan and an environmentalist, and I am raising my children as such. I don't think that you should judge anyone who has more than 2 children and say anything negative about them, in doing so, you alienate them, what about people who had their 5 children before becoming a vegan or an environmentalist, should they hide the fact of the number of their children? and what if as in my case, someone gets pregnant, and already has 3 kids, should they abort that living fetus to save the earth? Or would the abortion somehow bring karma that they would not want to have later in their lives?
I do believe in adoption, but not everyone should adopt, the people who want IVF want "their" child, not just "a" child, and children from foster care and orphanages have a whole host of issues that the pampered people who can afford IVF are not equipped to deal with. Many loving people have a hard time dealing with children from orphanages.

I am surprised that you would say "actions speak louder than words" about people who are trying to reduce their carbon footprint and have 5 kids, a true environmentalist would prob live out in the woods not using electricity or any gas powered vehicle at all, growing their own organic food, composting and not using any plastic or unnatural product, and only bathing in the river or springs, but thats not always feasible in this world....
The people who might be your friends could be hurt by that last comment you made...
just something to think about...
Posted by Sara on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 at 9:45 AM

Thanks for letting people know this stuff. It amazes me to realize that most global warming activists aren't even aware of it.
Posted by Becci on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 8:53 PM

Great blog, Frank! I absolutely agree. Animal rights must be an integral mix to solving global warming, with the most obvious solution being veganism. The energy that goes into raising cattle and the methane that they emit leave a much bigger carbon footprint than all the cars combined. Not to mention species mass extinction that comes with a rapidly warming climate.
Posted by ShadowFax on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 9:36 PM

Thanks Frank, noted and reposted and also saved so I can repost when the bulletins disappear.
Posted by Janice on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 9:40 PM

WELL SAID. I am reposting this. Thanks, Frank!
Posted by Mardhi on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 11:44 PM

Did you let the people know that animal's require much of the same to live as us Human Animals to survive?
Wolves were almost killed out up north and it threw the whole Eco System all the way down to insects, and also by not having Wolves the week Buffalo survived and was producing weaker Buffalo!
Posted by Russ on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 at 4:23 AM

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