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To us, a person cannot fully love God unless he or she
also loves God's creation:
whether it's expressed in the form of Mary's painting at the top of the
page, or in Carol Vito's photo of this winter wonderland,
or through the gentle beauty of this mother and child drinking water,
or the beauty of this spotted touch-me-not,
or through this cat and rat who prove that Isaiah's prophecy of a peaceable
kingdom (11:6-9) is a reality,
or through this peaceful encounter with a mouse in a tree.
Comments by Evelyn Elkin Giefer - 12 Jan 2003
Maynard, Rod and all,
I donít pretend to be the intellectual equal of Maynard
and many others on this list (in fact I often have to struggle to understand
what is being said!), but I wanted to put in my 2 cents worth on this.
I donít think Nature is the enemy. I believe that nature
is basically good, but that the violence and predation is due to the Fall
(original sin, i.e., due to humankindís weakness, willfulness, sinfulness,
etc.) and that only when we learn to live together in love and non-violence
(with humans and nature/animals) will there be the Peaceable Kingdom. God
will bring it about, indeed is bringing it about even now, because God alone
is perfect and God inspires us to live/act in love and peace. But
unless/until we all (all of us humans) get it right, nature remains ďin
bondage to decayĒ, as Paul expresses it. Our promise from God is that one
day we will get it right. Praise God!
We see examples of this at work in stories of lions who
wonít eat meat, etc. and right here on the list with Frank and Mary
Hoffmanís cats who refuse to kill birds and mice. Those cats live in such a
peaceable environment among persons who are totally dedicated to God and the
cause of peace for all creatures, that it somehow permeates their being.
I donít think we have to overcome nature in the sense of
mastering or controlling it (but Iím not sure if thatís what Rod is saying).
However, in the sense that we protect birds from cats by keeping our cats
inside, provide safe shelter for farm animals, or rescue injured animals,
etc, we are in fact at least partly controlling nature. By doing so we hope
to make an impression for good on the world.
Go on to
Comments by Rod Preece - 12 Jan
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